#Language: eng #File id: 4289 1200.45 1201.12 B: you can do any- 1200.54 1201.42 A: and %uh 1202.70 1204.17 A: how do you know you're going to get this money? 1205.31 1205.83 B: well 1205.66 1206.76 A: how legitimate is this? 1207.23 1209.28 B: well %eh people are getting checks 1209.69 1210.03 A: who is? 1210.58 1212.67 B: &Mark is, people above him they're 1212.18 1215.17 A: yeah, but &Mark's selling to you, of course he's going to tell you he's getting them 1216.50 1220.05 B: well, I don't know, I mean somebody must be seeing them 1219.98 1221.61 A: there are a lot of scams out there too 1221.71 1226.40 B: well I know, but people, okay people are buying in and 1226.97 1230.93 B: if the people above them were not getting their checks, they wouldn't do it 1232.03 1232.74 A: how do you know? 1233.93 1234.62 B: how do I know? 1235.04 1236.18 A: how do you know they're getting their checks? 1238.21 1240.93 B: well why would they, why would they %um 1241.19 1245.50 B: why would they do it? because you make the checks out to the company, you don't make the checks out to them 1247.42 1247.84 A: what check? 1248.65 1252.16 B: when you go in, you make your money order out, you send it to the company 1252.24 1252.64 A: right 1252.73 1254.70 B: you don't send it to the people above you 1254.98 1258.10 B: so why would the people above you be doing it if they they ((weren't getting)) [last two words distorted] 1255.13 1255.41 A: right 1257.39 1258.50 A: how do you know they're doing it? 1259.75 1262.56 B: well because, they're spending time t- showing us 1262.78 1264.76 B: and having seminars, why would they even 1264.16 1266.05 A: just &Mark you said is doing the seminars 1266.67 1268.93 B: yeah, &Mark is, and 1269.32 1272.96 B: [noise of phone moving] why would he even do the seminars if he weren't getting th- his checks that he's supposed to? 1273.26 1274.24 A: because he's getting the money 1274.63 1276.66 B: no. you don't send them to him, you 1276.30 1278.69 A: oh well it's a scam, he gets it back 1280.15 1284.13 B: well I don't think so. he he does another one too, he does 1284.17 1286.77 B: two different ones and he's focusing on this one now 1287.08 1287.53 A: all right 1288.44 1291.57 B: I mean you send it to some other state it's out in %um 1291.88 1293.96 B: it's &Kansas or something, I don't know 1295.91 1298.58 B: I forget where it is, &Oklahoma, I forget 1299.42 1300.50 B: but it's %um 1301.81 1304.06 B: it's a different state you know 1305.13 1309.57 B: and it makes sense you know, y- if you figure out how much {breath} money 1309.93 1312.22 B: if you figure out how much money, %um 1314.68 1316.52 B: %um, what do you call it 1317.62 1322.19 B: I mean &Dick already got his free car- cards, he's been using his free calling card 1322.81 1323.33 A: mhm 1323.38 1329.53 B: and %um, if you figure out how much money the company has by {breath} when you put in the money, 1330.47 1333.36 B: and you know, like you three thousand in each leg, {clearing throat} 1333.54 1338.65 B: [channel noise] it really only costs for long distance like about {breath} I don't know, if it's five cents a minute 1340.12 1344.58 B: a- and you get three se- six thousand dollars and you've only made twelve hundred of it 1345.63 1347.32 B: you know, so they make enough money 1349.27 1351.04 B: to pay you, they're glad to do that 1352.86 1353.24 B: right? 1353.37 1353.75 A: yeah 1354.34 1354.83 B: so 1355.93 1356.31 B: that 1357.18 1359.69 B: I mean, it's it's a good deal for everybody 1361.80 1364.95 B: %eh I mean f- %uh four ce-, five cents a minute 1366.67 1372.74 B: nine hundred, of of say, {breath} five cents a minute times three hundred thirty minutes 1374.01 1374.62 B: is what? 1376.19 1378.19 B: sixteen dollars, seventeen dollars 1380.82 1383.09 B: at minimum, that's that's trivial 1383.56 1383.98 A: yeah 1385.90 1387.65 B: I guess, is that seventeen dollars? 1389.14 1389.92 B: that's nothing 1391.45 1392.77 B: and then you got ((the)) 1392.48 1393.83 A: who says it's five cents a minute? 1394.80 1396.54 B: yeah, is that seventeen dollars? 1396.90 1398.41 A: yeah, but who says it's five cents a minute? 1397.03 1397.62 B: ((excuse me?)) [distortion] 1399.37 1406.60 B: I don't know, it must cost them like so little, because it only costs &Sprint, ((if)) it only costs the customer ten cents a minute on &Sprint 1407.61 1408.56 B: so they must %mm 1409.12 1415.03 B: co-, it must cost them only like five cents a minute. &Dick said it costs anywhere from four and a half to six cents a minute for them 1415.60 1417.12 B: I don't know where he got that number 1417.96 1418.36 A: %hm 1419.90 1423.54 B: but %um, this guy &Mark, he put his %um 1424.68 1429.02 B: &Mark put his, you know, his daughter under him, and then his 1429.89 1432.71 B: girlfriend's under him, on another one and 1433.43 1439.48 B: you know he's got all these people that he knows so that they can make money, but I don't know, you know 1439.79 1440.31 A: mhm 1440.83 1445.07 B: I'm I'm alr- already getting a few people to go to the meeting, so 1445.40 1446.00 A: so that's good 1447.20 1452.74 B: yeah, and %um, let's see {breath} that guy I talked to yesterday, &Michael [slight noise of phone moving] 1453.79 1456.54 B: he's real religious, but he's going to %um 1457.39 1460.61 B: he s- he said he'll go. he has to get some friends to go too so 1461.31 1465.13 B: you know, it seems like it's a it's a great great deal it's like 1465.88 1469.99 B: it's like &Mary &Kay, how &Mary &Kay works or anything else, so why wouldn't it be legal? 1471.14 1476.19 A: I didn't say it wasn't legal, I just I just want to make sure that it's legitimate, that's [distortion] all [/distortion] 1475.83 1481.74 B: well, it's only been around for not even three months and there are seventeen hundred people in it already 1481.87 1485.91 A: well I would w-, I would want to know %um how they 1487.97 1491.14 A: how they do the calls because {breath} %um 1491.36 1491.86 B: [distortion] what calls [/distortion] 1491.47 1495.31 A: I don't think &M &C &I and &Sprint and and &A &T &and &T are paying them 1496.30 1498.27 A: because they're using their networks you know 1496.45 1497.42 B: [distortion] ((uh-huh)) [/distortion] 1498.67 1501.91 A: how are they getting how's the call being completed and how are they getting their money?